I did once. The rules of character creation were so overwhelming, I got scared off and never went back.

One of the many things I love about V&V is how quickly you can put a character together.

There are some long math equations in V&V, like carry cap and jumping, but nothing approaching the math required for playing Champions.

I looked through some of the rules books growin' up. As problematic as V&V's random system can be, I never liked a point-based system. When Different Worlds wrote up the Titans back in the day, they had to give all the Titans dopey weaknesses to make the points work out. Like, they all had a vulnerability to poisons as a weakness. And it didn't make sense that they got weaknesses for bein' hunted by the HIVE and other villains. I mean, they're heroes--of course they'r hunted by the villains. I mean, what else do ya think villains should do?

Okay, but w/the Titans, they didn't start out hunted by the HIVE. They were all around for years before any of their "new" foes appeared. So what happens in cases like that: ev'ry time yer team gets a new enemy each player gets more hero points?

What happens when the villains are defeated--and no longer huntin' the heroes? Do they lose points and get weaker?

On the flip-side, in a point-based system, with "hunted by" as a weakness, do heroes actually make their opponents stronger by fighting them? I mean, should the X-Men say, "Yo, Avengers, don't fight Magneto. He's already hunted by us. If your team starts to fight him, too, he'll be even more powerful!"