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Reply #35 - Jun 20th, 2012 at 10:23pm
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I have always thought of magic use as a skill to be learned rather than something you are born with.

Like I said, its nitpicky.
  

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Reply #36 - Jun 20th, 2012 at 10:40pm
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John wrote on Jun 20th, 2012 at 9:37pm:
Oh crap, I just realised that I am reading the 8th book before the 7th!  And I am two chapters from the finish!

Craparoni.



Cast a Forget Spell on yourself and read the 7th book. Then go read the 8th again. What's the problem???
  
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Reply #37 - Jun 20th, 2012 at 11:47pm
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I thought Molly Carpenter became a major character so suddenly.
  

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Reply #38 - Jun 21st, 2012 at 12:03pm
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Molly the Hottie Wink
  

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Reply #39 - Jun 25th, 2012 at 8:15pm
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I started reading "Side Jobs" in the bookstore while waiting for my wifes Nook to get fixed.

I only got through the first few pages of the first story but I enjoyed it so far. I guess I will be picking it up after I finish Lovecraft.
  
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Reply #40 - Jun 25th, 2012 at 9:17pm
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I am halfway through Side Jobs now,  but I need to stop and read Proven Guilty before I finish, as the short stories are in order.
  

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Reply #41 - Jul 2nd, 2012 at 12:25am
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Ranger wrote on Jun 20th, 2012 at 9:52pm:
John allow me to provide an alternative line of thought to the mutant idea. I've read all of the Dresden books and I look at it kind of like this.

Not everyone but a lot of guys played high school football. A small percentage are born with the physical ability to play in college, an even smaller amount play Division I. Of those a tiny percentage are good enough to make it to the pros, let alone make a career out of it. Dresden's on the way to becoming a perrenial all-star.

But contrary to what some believe, I'm pretty sure teh Mannings aren't 'mutants'.  Grin

The thing is none of those guys make it anywhere without putting in the hard work. It seems to me in Dresden's universe there's a whole lot of magic of one kind or another, but only those born with greater gifts that work at it make it to the big leagues.

No? Okay how about Wizards are to Butcher as Inhumans are to Stan Lee  Wink

I agree in part.    Where as you have to be born with magical talent in most  fictional magic universes, and to a lesser degree in  the Dresden books, it takes away from the wish fufillment aspect of the story.

   You can't be a beautiful model, cause you were werent born with the right genes, you can't be a Jedi, cause you don't have that genetic twist,  you can't go to Hogwarts, cause you are a muggle.    Its all kind of exclusitory.

    While I may never be a quarterback for the Giants and win a superbowl ring,  I CAN be a quarterback.  I can practice and practice and, while never making it to that big game,   no one can stop me from  being a football player, even if I am not that great.

The way  magic is treated in most fantasy worlds, it might as well be apartheid.
  

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Reply #42 - Jul 2nd, 2012 at 12:54am
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(holy cow John, I forgot all about that post  Smiley)

It's okay to have dreams. Tim Tebow dreams of being a quarterback also ... poor kid.  Wink
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Reply #43 - Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46am
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LOL 

True, but I just hate the idea of  You don't have the mitaclorians so you can never be a Jedi, no matter how much you train.    It turns the fun of Star Wars into something akin to racism.   Same with Harry Potter, and all those other wizard worlds.    Something I have always hated about D&D. 

Dwarves can never be wizards, even though every culture that has dwarf legends has them as the very holders of mystic secrets and maker of magic weapons.  But you can't cast a  Hold Monster spell!
  

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Reply #44 - Jul 3rd, 2012 at 9:39pm
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They can in The Ravenswood......
  
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Reply #45 - Jan 12th, 2013 at 4:36pm
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Other spells I need to write up later

Sanctorum ( Enchantment/Alteration)
  The wizard makes this place his "Place of Power".   Only one wizard can claim a place as his sactum at a time.   The place is then his refuge,  and all spells cast whithin are considered to be cast with the best number  he can roll.   The chance of this spell working and it lasts for Level Years, is C+Wd100.  Caster needs to make a wealth roll-5 to gather the materials for this spell.    Very expensive!    Pr=100.

Dreamless sleep

Gavity Warp

Rave

Plane Walk

Threshold
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Reply #46 - Jan 12th, 2013 at 4:44pm
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Commune with Local Spirit

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Reply #47 - Jan 12th, 2013 at 4:51pm
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Reply #48 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 11:18am
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I am so far behind in reading. Just picked up Side Jobs this morning. Good that it is short stories so I can read through it slowly.

Need to get some more Dick Dante ideas and just a Good Read with some relaxation after a crazy few months.
  
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Reply #49 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 1:22pm
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I should get the last Dresden  book in September.   I hope its good, cause I didn't like Ghost Story ( a first) too much.
  

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Reply #50 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 7:40pm
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Yeah, I totally did not like Ghost Story. Next one is back to old standards.
  
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Reply #51 - Aug 14th, 2013 at 6:22pm
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Thoroughly enjoying Side Jobs and I can read one chapter each night without going crazy just waiting for the next chapter.

I cannot say I loved Ghost Story but I enjoyed it well enough.

I started reading the first few pages of the newest book on his website. Looks like he is back to his old self.
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Reply #52 - Aug 15th, 2013 at 1:51pm
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John wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 12:25am:
The way  magic is treated in most fantasy worlds, it might as well be apartheid.


But I felt in the Dresden books that you may not always know you were skilled at magic until you started to pursue it. Some people are completely incapable and some are OK at it, but you never know until you try.

Our real world doesn't have the means to try, so we'll never know.

It's less football and physical beauty than it is art and literature.
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Reply #53 - Sep 12th, 2013 at 8:04pm
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I am about 1/4 of the way through the newest Book and enjoying it thoroughly.

No spoilers though from me. I just think he is back on course again.

Tonight would be a good Spell Casting night here in New York. Just no Circle Magic because of the rain. Fulmination however.....
  
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Reply #54 - Sep 12th, 2013 at 9:07pm
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I read the first three chapters.  Just got to what Mab asked Dresden to do.   Then I put the book down for two days.  I like to let things simmer in my head when I am enjoying them.

  

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Reply #55 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 6:19pm
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I really liked the Emotion Control Attack the Outsider did in MacAnally's pub.   Good example of despair.
  

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Reply #56 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 9:06pm
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I took Harry a minute to throw up the Will Power defense. Sure he has a strong will but maybe something else too so he can still concentrate during all that fighting.

No more spoilers. I was just starting that chapter
  
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Reply #57 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 9:29pm
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Oh shit!  Sorry. So you didn't get to the part where Molly  has sex with Butters?
  

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Reply #58 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 5:20pm
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John wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 9:29pm:
Oh shit!  Sorry. So you didn't get to the part where Molly  has sex with Butters?

Marlon Brando?
  
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Reply #59 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 6:18pm
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Spoiler  (  Oni you are warned!!!)


Harry used an inventing point to do a power stunt with his soulfire.  He made his success roll and freed himself from being pinned down by Mother Winter's godlike will.
  

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Reply #60 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 11:58pm
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Just finished the book.  Ok  Jimmy what are your thoughts?
  

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Reply #61 - Sep 19th, 2013 at 8:14pm
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First thought is you cannot put "Spoiler Alert" because I will read it anyway and I did. read that chapter that night but I am moving slowly. Late nights

I think it is better than Ghost Story. One thing I thought that was over done was the ribbing brotherly love between Harry and Thomas. It seemed a little too much.

So far I am enjoying it but I still have quite a bit to read. He just left the Cottage to find out "The Truth"

  
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Reply #62 - Sep 19th, 2013 at 9:46pm
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It was better than Ghost Story, which was my least favorite.      The Dresden Stories are formulaic, but they are fun.    My only complaint was the out of place, and totally jarring speech about gay marriage.  I guess people still need to be conditioned in every medium.  Oh well.


(For the record,  don't think the government can limit what people do without good reason, and  if the only reason against gay marriage is religious, then its not valid, still doesn't mean I like this topic inserted into everything these days, and this was very ham fisted*)

My other favorites is the peak into Mac's past and  the secret identity of Santa Clause



* hehehe not to subtle gay love joke! Cheesy
  

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Reply #63 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:20pm
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Just picked up Skin Game.

Was in the midst of another book and I am putting that one to the side just to start this one!!!
  
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Reply #64 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 2:52pm
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I am waiting until it come out in mass paperback like all my other copies.   I  can't break the pattern. So  until September, shut your fucking mouth.
  

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Reply #65 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 3:14pm
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Reply #66 - Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:54am
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So you finished Side Jobs?   What did you think of the Oblivion War that is going on behind the scenes?

I think its a great idea, but find it hard that the White Vampires would be fighting it, especially for the reasons given.
  

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Reply #67 - Jun 29th, 2014 at 3:48pm
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Finished side jobs a while back. Now I will re read it for more clues but I have an idea of what you are talking about from a few stories.

Also just finished Skin Game last night.

Yep,

Another Wild Saturday night in The Oni residence while The Little Devil now gets deeply into her Supernatural Marathon on Netflix.
  
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Reply #68 - Dec 8th, 2014 at 11:16pm
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Finished Skin Game.

I loved the Hades plot, and I loved the moving forward of the Karen and Harry love plot.


But I thought  Butcher broke one of the rules of writing and it bothers me.  He lied to the readers.

Even though Harry hired the  Skinwalker before  Nicodemus,  Harry's inner thoughts talked about  him as if he didn't know home.  This was done to make the reveal that he was hired by Harry a shock, but it came off as a deliberate, and cheap, lie.  Why would Harry think about him as if he didn't know him, when it was not true.  The books are narrated by him, and he has never lied to the readers before.  True, he has kept things from us, but never out right changed the truth.    This really bothered me.

Other than that, I like where the books are going.  I love that Waldo is now a bad ass, and I love that Michael Carpenter played such a big role.  He is probably my third favorite character ( after Harry and Karen).
  

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Reply #69 - Jan 27th, 2016 at 9:31pm
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I read the E Book  "Working for Bigfoot". Three stories. Basic but enjoyable and liked the way he portrayed Bigfoot.

I was thinking. With all the various Sci Fi and Fantasy books turning into TV series and such what Actor would make a good Harry?

For some reason Liev Schreiber came to mind.

Yes, I know about the previous attempt to go TV but don't want to think about that one.
  
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