Well Hawk here is the bare bones sheet I have so far I left a lot open for a few reasons. 1) I haven't put together a V&V character in a loooong time, and 2) I figured by leaving it open ended The GM could modify as he felt without to much crying on my end

Identity: Tadoka Longshadow                    Side: Good
Name: Longshadow                                        Sex: Male           Age: 16                 Height:  4' 6"       Weight: 100 lbs                                                 Experience:                                                   Level:  1
Training:
Inventing:
Powers:
1) Size Change: Larger   PR Cost = 2 per step up
     Height     Weight            Carrying Capacity      Base HTH Dmg
       6' 7"           340 lbs.                    748 lbs.                        1d8
       9'                 800 lbs.                   1,760 lbs.                   1d10
       16' 2"          2,700 lbs.               5,940 lbs                     2d8
       18'               6,400 lbs.                14,080 lbs                  2d10
       22' 5"          12,500 lbs.              27,500 lbs.                 3d10
       27'                21,600 lbs.              47,520 lbs.                 4d10
       31' 5"           34,300 lbs.              75,460 lbs.                5d10
2) Mutant Power: Adult Body : although he is a teen when he activates his power he takes on the appearance of what he would look like at 25
3)Heightened Senses:  Acute Hearing his hearing is sharper than normal greater distance nad can hear through substances less dense than lead
4)Invulnerability: 20 points (only works when he is 9' or taller)
5) Heightened Endurance: 20 points
Vulnerability:  for some reason  Infrasound, sound lower than 17 Hz causes him to lose cohesion, and must make end save or revert to 6' 7" size
Limited Power:  Whenever he uses his power to grow higher than 18' the PR cost becomes doubled to 4
Str: 10                         Carrying Capacity:  320 lbs.                                                       Base HTH Dmg: 1d4
End: 34                       Healing Rate:
Agil: 16                        Accuracy Mod.:          Damage Mod.:
Int: 12                           Detect Hidden:               Danger:
Cha: 15                          Reaction from Good:                    Evil:
Basic Hits:

Avatar, your character looks pretty cool to me.

sure Rog just use my Avatar pic

And the PDF!

John, Ya know I hadn't thought of that!  Well if nothing else that gives me lots of room for development. So  Dom , Majestic hey  fellas how do yo want to run this mechanically? I'm fine with whatever I did not see any special rules under house rules for the growth power

Yeah, Ranger's right.  There's a huge problem with V&V Size Change: Larger characters, when done straight per the RAW.  The only way they can ever hit anything is to get really lucky (i.e., they have a 5% chance of hitting, which sucks, especially for a PC) or you balance it out by giving them a Heightened Agility, but that can end up swinging things the other way (and make them TOO strong).  I'd work with the GM (Dom), and maybe figure out a way to give him a Heightened Expertise or something.  Either that or you have to go around picking up huge objects, which aren't always readily available (and imagine how you would feel if your brand new RAM truck got picked up and used as a brawling weapons!)

my rule book is the old paperback 1982 edition. I can't find anything either ,but that's irrelevant. As a science guy who likes some real science in my superhero world I understand that targeting at larger sizes is just 1 of the issues once we suspend some laws of physics. No matter, However Dom decides I'll work with it. If that means I'm just a shield for a while that's fine. I am currently re-reading The Physics of Superheroes by James Kakalios he is a proff at the University of Minnesota and the chapters on size change both smaller and larger are pretty cool. Anyway whatever you decide is fine by me I'll work with it. It's a power I don't think I've ever seen any one role play so Challenge Accepted !

Now I feel like a dufus. There it is in the book duh. Well maybe I can train just to offset or what will have to see what Dom suggests. I may just be a shield for  a while (Not like I haven't done that in a game before right Spyder )

you know i  didn't do points I just rolled stats but looking again at character generation section here I see I should have done that route. If Dom is cool with it I'll just put points in dex and train toward HTH while grown whatever  he deems best

Oh, and one other really annoying thing about getting an Agility of 1 (or 3, or whatever).  It means your character will only get to move once every turn.

So he'll have to wait a long, long time in combat for his turn to come around, all to get the opportunity to miss again. 

I have a suggestion...

Since your Mutant Power is only doing one thing.. that is making you look adult aged when using any level of size increase... yeah~ technically that IS a power but kinda lame for a full blown power.  Why don't you do this.. your mutant power not only makes you look like an adult.. but it also allows you to offset your increased weight from size with carry capacity at your will.

So.. if you were to grow to your full maximum size {31'5"}... you could have a Carry Capacity of 75,460 lbs, with a weight of 34,300 lbs. for a Agility penalty of -16 and a damage of 5d10 OR you could expend 34,000lbs of carry capacity to offset your weight penalties for Agility your still weight 34,300 lbs but you'd have no Agility penalty and your carry capacity would be only 41,160lbs with a damage of 4d10.  You could adjust how much weight from carry capacity agility penalties you want based on how heavy you are for a reduced amount of carry capacity and a lesser amount of basic Hand to hand damage.  But if you needed to be really strong or fight something your size you could forgo offsetting your weight with carry capacity and inflict more damage and truly be a mighty titan indeed!

I think this would be an elegant way to not cripple the character and yet limit his power on a case by case basis.

Also if you put his remaining stat points into Agility {...which since you rolled random your base agility is 16 so based on your non-size increased weight your agility should be modified to an 18} your agility will be a 24! Even at your max weight of 34,300lbs your would STILL be a 6 {22 Agility unmodified by weight -16}!

And remember a 22 Agility at you maximum weight is a +4 Accuracy to any attack you make.  That's pretty awesome if you ask me!

Avatar, I'll work up a PDF version of you character sheet this weekend, and post it here. As I've done in the past, I may make slight mods to specific powers. Once it's done, I'll shoot it to you for a once over before actually posting it to the the boards. Ranger and T-Bolt, the same goes for both you guys.

Hawk wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:33pm:


Yes sir.

Sounds good Dom

That's actually a pretty cool looking suit.