So I was looking at the Monkey House Games site and the last update about v&V 3.0 seems to be nearly three years old. I'm kinda curious: anybody have any info on this? There was so much drama about getting the rights back for V&V but it seems like they've done nothing with the game. Maybe I missed something?

I doubt I'll switch from 2nd Ed. but I'd probably buy a copy of 3rd just to see what it's like. As I did with "2.1" or whatever they called it.

I think Jeff Dee just wanted to take his ball and go home.

What Majestic said.  In addition to the thread that he indicates above, there was also one titled "Can you believe it's been three years...?" or something like that, wondering about how time could have passed so quickly between the release of 2.1 in 2010 and now (meaning last year).  Jeff indicated directly that he and Jack are in the process of awaiting the slow glacial drip erosion of the courts to pull through the FGU business before the two of them can get 3.0 out into the world with no further interference, corporate, legal or otherwise.

I have very strong hopes for the revised system, but still am perfectly happy to keep moving along with 2.0/2.1 for however long it takes.  The system is more than strong enough, within discussed parameters, to accommodate virtually limitless house rules that fit almost any liking - I can't identify any other superhero RPG that fits that criteria.

Living Legends is a point-based system.  I don't think very many people liked it.  I made fun of it and after that Jeff started posting Living Legends stats in all his adventures.

Matt wrote on Feb 16^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:


I did.  I was a playtester for it, and played a campaign for a few years.

It was an okay system, but I always felt it didn't capture that je ne sais quoi that V&V has/had.

I have a sneaky feeling from what I saw and am hearing it's going to be a more sophisticated game mechanic than the original system but still less complicated than most of today's RPGs, and considering the creative minds at the core are also middle aged men who love of comics was born in the Silver and Bronze Age likely to still replicate the "feel" we are looking for.