Doctor Foom wrote on Jul 6^th, 2009 at 12:56pm:

Shoot! And all this time I thought Q'silver woulda been at least as strong as Tony Stark (St: 18, Dam. 1d8) out-ta uniform. I guess he ain't as in shape as he looks. Who knew?

Just to clarify--I really like these write-ups. Not tryin' to give no one a hard time w/my remarks. One thing that is clear in my mind is that V&V could-a used some more guidelines when it came to super speed. Seems like alll the best-known speedsters--like Quicksilver above--need some extra rules t/explain their powers. And we all know that Vibratory Powers don't always make due!

Doctor Foom wrote on Jul 6^th, 2009 at 5:39pm:
Wasn't complainin'. Lookin' forward to humble Hank Pym!

Yellowjacket

Level: 19

Powers:

Heightened Intelligence: +15

Size Change Smaller: PR: 2 and movement to change size. No cost to return to normal size. Height Factor of 72 makes Pym harder to hit at this size, and harder to see.
Pym retains his normal hit points and carrying capacity in smaller size, and gains +8 to his initiative.

Wings Device: 330" per turn. 90mph. 1 charge per hour or use. 10 charges.

Stingers: Disrupter blast devices in gloves: Range: 30". Damage: 2d8 +2. Attacks as better of Sonics or Vibratory.  Cost: 1 charge per blast. 16 charges.

Heightened Expertise: +4 to hit with fist

Phobia/Psychosis: Hank Pym is insecure about his effectiveness and role as a superhero.*

Strength: 15
Endurance: 18
Agility: 18 (26 initiative at smaller size)
Intelligence: 29
Charisma: 15

Hit points: 37

Power points: 80

HTH damage: 1d8

Notes:
*A side effect of Pym's weakness is his need to keep reinventing himself with new powers: Ant Man to Giant Man to Goliath to Yellowjacket.
It also makes him reject incredibly useful powers like Size Change Larger.

SuperFriend wrote on Jul 7^th, 2009 at 8:33pm:


Thanks.
Poor Hank... You're right!

I agree about Hawkeye. I think he had around a 7 Charisma when he joined the Avengers. Ex-con, devil's advocate who was undermining Cap's authority.
But over time, he outgrew it and increased his Charisma.

Nice jobs.

Jocasta! Jocasta!

You sure know how to hurt a guy! 

He's in Reply 27 of this thread.

Doctor Foom wrote on Jul 8^th, 2009 at 10:04pm:


Oops...I missed him somehow. 

Yeah, Jocasta really got the short end of the stick. She was pretty much treated like garbage by everyone.

Even I must be prejudice against her. I had to go back and double her hit points to 120. Originally I gave her only 8 basic hits, but with her weight she gets 16 basic hits (and now 120 hit points)!

It's funny cuz originally they didn't like Jocasta because she was built by Ultron. But the Avengers also were uncomfortable around her becuase her voice/personality was patterned after Wasp's, which gave everybody the creeps. And Vision wouldn't give the poor grrl the time of day when she needed a confidant, basically actin' like there was such a HUGE difference between a synthezoid and a robot. Basically everyone acted like a snob around her.

I remember at her funeral when newcomer Captain Marvel seemed to think highly of Jocasta. Must be because they never met!

Are you gonna post Ms. Marvel? Next to Phoenix, she had to be the hottest thing at Marvel Comics at the time!

I'll post Ms. Marvel next.

Then I think I might do the FF circa John Byrne's run, as well as Spidey before the clone saga. Perhaps in a new thread.
Then I would come back around to the Guardians and others.

Beast was already done in this thread.

Hey Dr. Foom,

Fer starters, I agree that Hawkeye's charisma was low when he started, and that it rose--but I have a few questions.

First, ye keep callin' him an ex-con. I know Iron Man mistook him as a criminal at first (just like half of all Marvel characters mistake each other for crooks at first), but I thought that was a misunderstandin'--it was Hawkeye's mentors, not him, who were the crooks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkeye_(comics)

Also, in another thread you had him startin' out w/reduced charisma. Like I say, he definitely had charisma on the low side at first. But w/reduced charisma you can't raise it from 7 to 15. What separates the weakness in game terms is that it prevents characters from raisin' the score more than 3 points.

Maybe the rules changed in a supplemental resource that I missed. To recap: Hawks might have raised his charisma from 7 to 15, but that would mean he just started out w/charisma on the low side--not reduced charisma.

And if Hawks really is an ex-con, could you get back to me w/the issues. I'd be interestin' to see early Clint Barton in jail.

In the bare bones thread you listed him w/reduced charisma. But yer right, he did act like a criminal for a while too. Anyway, I wasn't tryin' to start a fight--just wonderin' if I'd missed somethin' on how the weakness worked. Not up on everyone's house rules and such.

Didn't mean to throw yer words back at-cha, my man. Someday yo gots to tell us if you got an M.D. or a Ph.D. or some other advanced degree. Peace!

Hey Doc Foom!

Feel free to adapt the draft Thor I sent. His hits and BHTHD and strength score will have to be altered dependin' on how heavy and tough ye see the character at the time. (I'm up w/yer approach that Marvel made a mistake sayin' that the god of thunder weighs 600+ lbs., so use whatever weight fits.)

I notice that you got Wondy doing 5d10 BHTHD (liftin' about 50-60 tons, I guess). I'm cool w/dat. If ye want Thor in that range, dat's cool. If he's stronger, based on yer take of the Avenger at the time, dat's cool too.

By keepin' his weight lower, ye can give him only -2 Agility mod., easily placin' his Agility at 16 and such. And if ye like my suggestiion of givin him Lowered Intelligence: -3 as Thor (as compared to an 18 intelligence as Dr. Blake), go ahead.

I want to be respectful of yer take on the character, and don't want to post a draft that doesn't match yer approach--especially I'm not too tied to the guy. I just thought it might be fun to see what he might be like in game terms.

Have a good vacation, Dr. Foom! Avengers Assemble!!!

Thor

Level: 21

Powers:

1. Transformation/Power Activation: Dr. Donald Blake requires one action to become Thor, and must hit his walking stick on the ground to do it.

2. Body Power: "god." Thor ages very slowly, and is immune to conventional disease

3. Heightened Strength B (x3): + 70

4. Heightened Endurance B: +25

5. Invulnerability: 15 points (not as tough as Wondy)

6. Heightened Expertise: +4 w/hammer

7. Special Weapon: Mjolnir, the Mystic Uru Hammer. Thor can use Mjolnir as a HTH or thrown weapon (+3 to hit, damage = HTH + 2d10), and it automatically returns to him at the end of the turn (unless blocked by mystical / extradimensional or other means). No one may lift/hold the hammer unless they are worthy. There can only be one owner of the hammer at a time. This magic weapon also provides:
A) Flight
B) Weather Control
C) Dimensional Travel: May travel to the Nine Realms (Midgard, Asgard, Jotenheim, Hel, Vanaheim, etc.)

Weaknesses:

1. Special Requirement: If Thor's hammer is out of his hand for more than one minute, he returns to Donald Blake.

2. Lowered Intelligence: -3. Thor's no dummy, but he doesn't have Don Blake's 18 Intelligence.

Weight: 240 lbs.
Basic Hits: 5
Agility Mod.: -2

Strength: 90
Endurance: 40
Agility: 16
Intelligence: 15
Charisma: 21

Hit Mod. (6.4)(5.0)(1.6)(1.2) = 61.44
Hit Points: 307
Power Points: 161

Accuracy: +2, +9 w/Mjolnir
Damage Mod.: +2

Carry Cap: 87,960
Basic HTH Damage: 5d10

Notes:
-The Lowered Intelligence weakness is inspired work, SF. Later, during Simonsen’s run, Thor’s Intelligence seems to fall to 12!

-The notion that Thor weighs over 600 lbs. (as per the Marvel Universe comics) never rang true for me. Hulk, sure. But Thor?