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Question: How great is V&V on a scale of 1 to 10 ??????

10: the game's close to perfect as is

9: exceptional

8: creative, coherent, fun

7: average RPG, workable for the genre

6: below average

5: failing grade (unless you REALLY like supes)

4: incomplete, requires massive house rules

3: it's unsalvagable

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mel Sidekick Offline vigilantesomething Posts: 45 Joined: Jan 7^th, 2010	How great is V&V on a scale of zero to 10 ?????? Jan 28^th, 2010 at 7:47pm	Print Post
	I think it's okay to leave off the numbers 0-2 on the poll. If you felt that negatively you probably wouldn't come to this forum. Right?


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John Galactus Offline The Master Cylinder Posts: 6693 Location: Selden Joined: Apr 11^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: How great is V&V on a scale of zero to 10 ?????? Reply #1 - Jan 28^th, 2010 at 8:16pm	Print Post
	I gave it an 8. It stood the test of time but there is always room for improvement.

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Jeff Sidekick Offline grrrr Posts: 22 Joined: Jan 26^th, 2010	Re: How great is V&V on a scale of zero to 10 ?????? Reply #2 - Jan 28^th, 2010 at 9:52pm	Print Post
	I gave it an 8 as well. It needs a few tweaks, such as some type of skill mechanic and it doesn't handle high power levels well.


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Hammer Justice Leaguer Offline Stranger in a Stranger Land Posts: 528 Location: McKinney, TX Joined: Aug 17^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: How great is V&V on a scale of zero to 10 ?????? Reply #3 - Jan 28^th, 2010 at 11:13pm	Print Post
	I gave it a 9, I know there are some areas it's lacking, the lack of a skill system mainly. I don't really care for all of the legal mumbo jumbo in the rulebook, but the rules are flexible enough to allow for almost anything. Random character generation rocks. Bizarre combinations can be tweaked to make perfect sense. You would never get the kind of creative characters you find in V&V in other supers games. The game is flexible enough that with a few house rules, it works better than any other system I've tried.


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Majestic Justice Leaguer Offline Guardian of Earth Posts: 5179 Location: Seattle Joined: Jun 8^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: How great is V&V on a scale of zero to 10 ?????? Reply #4 - Feb 1^st, 2010 at 4:25pm	Print Post
	I nearly chose an 8, and - though it's by far the RPG I've played (and run) the most - I don't think it's the best RPG ever made. That said, I think it's an amazing piece of work that stands the test of time, inspires creativity, and is extremely flexible. I decided to give it a 9, as it's one of the best games ever made, in my view. And to me, it's by far the best of the genre.


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Doctor Foom Justice Leaguer Offline Silver Age relic Posts: 752 Joined: May 17^th, 2009	Re: How great is V&V on a scale of zero to 10 ?????? Reply #5 - Feb 3^rd, 2010 at 7:44pm	Print Post
	Rationally it's a 7. Emotionally it's a 10. So I split the difference and rounded off.


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Troy Teen Titan Offline Posts: 108 Location: CA Joined: Jan 7^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: How great is V&V on a scale of zero to 10 ?????? Reply #6 - Feb 7^th, 2010 at 12:18am	Print Post
	With all the new materials now available at FGU--for FREE--I have to go with a 9. They're filling in all the missing pieces that such a great game deserves. I am so happy that V&V is getting an official comeback. I "heart" V&V!
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Majestic Justice Leaguer Offline Guardian of Earth Posts: 5179 Location: Seattle Joined: Jun 8^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: How great is V&V on a scale of zero to 10 ?????? Reply #7 - Feb 12^th, 2010 at 1:40am	Print Post
	Troy wrote on Feb 7^th, 2010 at 12:18am: With all the new materials now available at FGU--for FREE--I have to go with a 9. They're filling in all the missing pieces that such a great game deserves. I am so happy that V&V is getting an official comeback. I "heart" V&V! I know; I'm pretty psyched about the release of new material as well!


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Troy Teen Titan Offline Posts: 108 Location: CA Joined: Jan 7^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: How great is V&V on a scale of zero to 10 ?????? Reply #8 - Feb 12^th, 2010 at 2:50am	Print Post
	V&V is BACK!! It's like a dream come true!


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davew Avenger Offline Designer Posts: 357 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: How great is V&V on a scale of zero to 10 ?????? Reply #9 - Feb 26^th, 2010 at 12:28am	Print Post
	10... but I'm obviously biased.

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Troy Teen Titan Offline Posts: 108 Location: CA Joined: Jan 7^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: How great is V&V on a scale of zero to 10 ?????? Reply #10 - Feb 26^th, 2010 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	With all the new material, V&V has to be a 10. Maybe 11 Plus Plus.


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davew Avenger Offline Designer Posts: 357 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: How great is V&V on a scale of zero to 10 ?????? Reply #11 - Feb 27^th, 2010 at 12:28pm	Print Post
	Troy, Thanks again for your kind comments! It's a nice boost, honestly, especially when its late in the evening and one is rather tired and not in the fullest of moods to type away. Compliments like these are the energy drinks of design! Speaking of which, I've got a certain wicked cellar level numbered out right now and its time to add some details.

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