Has anyone found any specific differences in the 2.1 rules?  I mean besides the 2 extra sections (Shields/Weapon Parrying and the Bandidos y Vigilantes).

I wasn't going to include typos unless they create a change in the rules.

A good example of this is the power Light Control on the combat table.  The 2.0 rules has a base chance to hit of 8.  The 2.1 rules has a base chance to hit of 14.  DSumner asked Jeff Dee about this and was told it was a typo.  However, because it created a change in the rules I would include it here.

This thread is not intended to critique the rule changes, only to provide a list for reference.

Yes!  Thanks!

Thanks!

More!  More!

I just remembered another one:

The entries for CHESS are updated, for example, it says that the acronym for the agency "is commonly mistaken to be the Central Headquarters of Espionage for the Secret Service.  In fact, even President Bush erroneously referred to it as such in a 2003 speech."

There's some other stuff in there that talks about the origin and formation of the organization.

Inventing is now somewhat different. Rather than a straight score of 3x Intelligence listed on the character sheet(in it's place is a line "Inventing:_______" where one lists relevant background, skills, etc. rather than a simple score %) there is now a process detailed in section 6.3. While the average invention still has a base chance of 3x Intelligence, the GM also has to take into account several other factors such as the nature of the invention, whether it is a permanent addition to powers or a one shot device for the scenario etc.

i assume there are different example heroes and villains in the combat examples, too. I miss Nomad

There are (new examples).

I missed Indie's post above, but Display Name is correct; Inventing is exactly the same (they just wrote it slightly different on the character sheet).

Let him team-up with Lightning Fist.

I liked Nomad as well. I just thought he and LF would make a cool duo, or add them to Condor and Shatterman as an interesting team.

so, who are the example heroes & villains who have full stats in 2.1?

i will, I was just curious in the meantime. basically, the new npc stats and the mexican wrestling rules are all I dont already have, so its admittedly lower on my totem pole of v&v purchase priority than some products.

Fair enough, though I thought since he had repeated questions it might be easier just to get the document (I don't even remember, but can't one get just a PDF for even cheaper)?

Also, keep in mind that's it got tons of new art as well!

The example of facing has Mouser on it now, as well as using Viridia and The Suit.

The Example of Play uses Gunsmith and Crime Teacher, in a completely new scenario.

The typo is in the 2.1 rules.  Your English is fine, I was just vague!

Regardless of whether it is a typo or not, I go with the base of 14 for Light Control.....the idea that hitting someone with a beam of light is almost 50% LESS likely than a Power Blast just strikes me as ludicrous. That doesn't take into account any of the other blasty powers like Ice Powers, Disintegration, Flame Powers, Lightning Control, Magnetic Powers, and Vibratory Powers most of which have more than one application of the power aside from an energy projection. I still have no idea why it was felt that a base of 8 was appropriate for Light Control.

Yeah, when I first pointed out the "change" in Light Control's base to hit number, it actually caused a pretty big debate. At the time I thought it was something Jeff meant to do, and apparently it was a mistake. Several of us argued back and forth about it for a couple of days, over on the MHG forum. The solution I came up with was to run with the 14 for regular Light Control attacks, and use the old number for the "Flash" attack.

Yep, I/we do what DSumner suggested, use 14 for the more "focused" attack, and 8 for the blinding flash.

Though it's worth noting that the blinding flash still requires a special to hit, it's still really powerful, being as it can attack in a radius (and for radius attacks like that we play that one miss doesn't mean they all miss).

I included this link and post in the text file in the Yahoo! group, but not here, so here it is:
http://monkeyhousegames.com/?page_id=18&mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=770.0