PulpCitizen wrote on Oct 7^th, 2010 at 3:43am:



I can't  Ive been hit with a spell; Powerword LAZY!

Noble Causes would have been a great V&V campaign.  As well as agreat read.  And the last page of each comic Jay Farber would have an article called, "Under the Influence".  This article would talk about the things that influenced him. Things like comics, books, and tv shows.   
  One of the articles was an excellent discusion of the Elementals!

Its a comic series I highly recomend.

PC, IIRC, you're over in the UK, which British comics do you think would work well in a V&V?

I think that Marvel's New Universe characters would convert pretty easily to V&V.

I can't believe no one has mentioned The Justice Machine! Their power levels are perfect for V&V!

Info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Machine

Alongside The Elementals and Hero Alliance, one of my all time favorite indie comic hero teams. And they should be coming back soon, thanks to Moonstone comics. I bought the sourcebook for Heros Unlimited, and I don't even own the rules for that game!

Also the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents (yes, I know a supplement was supposed to come, but never did).

Others: Brigade (the lineup from the first limited series, when they went into space), The Southern Knights, Strikeforce Morituri, the early run of Suicide Squad (before they went to Apokolips). Many all ready mentioned I'd second, third, fourth, etc. I'm sure there are more I'd suggest, but I just got done working 9 hours, so my brain is tired 

Good Call!

I seriously doubt it. That was decades ago, and the original license for the book has likely lapsed

proditorcappela wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 9:44am:


I may try some write-ups for those. I am working up some DC-Red Circle heroes at the moment, so after that may follow with the !mpact iterations.

Red Shield? Not one I am familiar with.

Any country in particular?

AlabasterKnight wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 8:28pm:


Funny that you mention that.  I just saw the DVD on the shelf last night and thought to myself that I need to watch it again (it's been years).

An interesting anecdote about The Incredibles: on the radio a few days ago they were talking about a list of the most desired super powers.  As they did each one (Flight, Super Strength, Invisibility, etc.) they talked about the most iconic superhero character identified with that power.  When they came to Super Speed the most identified super was Dash (from the Incredibles), rather than Flash, Quicksilver, etc.

Actually, his name is Red Guardian. There was one Red Guardian who changed his name, but he died. The current Red Guardian is the former Vanguard, who lost his hammer & Sickle during the last mini-series featuring the Russian heroes in it (Darkstar & The Winter Guard)

He might have been the 5th, as there was a Golden Age Red Guardian who shows up in a flashback issue of Captain America (iirc). Anyway, Steel Guardian died in Limbo at the hands of the Dire Wraiths. There was another Red Guardian (who was a cyborg) leading the Russian heroes, but he got taken out when it was revealed that Fantasma was a Wraith queen. Vanguard lost his weapons, and took up Guardian's shield, so now he's the new Red Guardian (though I have no clue if the shield he carries can focus his mutant power like the hammer and sickle did).

I tend to like various international heroes that appear in comics. Most are not overly powerful, but tend to have cool concepts. Crimson Dynamo has always been one of my favorite Iron Man villains back in the day.

Thank you for the bump, DSumner (and how often do you get people complimenting you for giving them a bump?); I'd never seen this particular thread before, but the subject matter looked intriguing.  Looking over previous point-outs and examples brings me back to the Summer of '93: I was doing a final course to finish off my degree (entire year's worth of material packed into three weeks; fortunately, the prof was superb and I ended up enjoying the hell out of it).  However, another marker of that time was Rob Liefeld's Brigade...a work now lost in the sands of time, perhaps, but which was my guilty pleasure back in the day.

What marked that series - at least the first four issues - as total V&V material, for me, was not just the characters and their respective powers and power levels - which I found to be entirely replicable within the scope of the game - but also the storyline, which was about as straightforward, bad-guys-are-comin'-to-town, stomp-'em-till-you-just-can't-stomp-no-more, make-no-apologies fun as you could ask for.  Thinking about how to stat up characters like Battlestone (aka John Stone - gotta give Rob credit for pushing the boundaries there), Kayo, Seahawk, Coldsnap, Atlas, Thermal and Stasis - and, obviously, Genocide (despite the name, he was not the tragic nice guy you might otherwise expect) provided hours of pleasant diversion.

Obviously, there were x number of other Image characters/groups that fit the V&V bill pretty much perfectly in terms of the game's ability to stat them out, including WildC.A.T.S. and Cyberforce.  Just maybe, one day, it'd be an idea for me to sit down and see if some numbers and descriptors can be assigned to those long-ago series and individuals who made up their rosters...

Wow.... really?  Not one mention of...

Southern Knights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Knights
or
The Champions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Champions_%28Hero_Universe%29

...These were my guilty pleasures of old.  Good comics on the whole.. have as many of them as I could get my hands on.  Especially Southern Knights.. really liked that team.