I never had the box set of V&V 2nd edition.
Did it come with an errata sheet?

If so, and if you have it, could you please share it here?

Thanks!

My boxed set came with a small errata sheet. I lost the sheet decades ago but remember that all of the changes were minor.

The only item that stands out is that the range for Mind Control is: (Intelligence + Charisma) divided by 5 inches ... rather than (I x C)/5" (p. 15).

All of the published materials I've seen follow the I + C formula, so the correction appears to have been applied consistently.

There may have been a note as well that the range for Emotion Control is Intelligence inches instead of 1" (p. 12)--although that typo is relatively easy to spot.

Published characters with Emotion Control consistently use Intelligence for the range, so this correction was applied consistently as well.

The 1982 agility/strength modifiers were applied consistently throughout all of the published resources in the 1980s, with no note of changing them on the official errata sheet in the boxed set.

So I'd see his Jeff Dee's recent suggestion (which many players already use) as a recommended update rather than a correction--just as his new cash and experience rules are suggested updates rather than corrections.

Hit Point modifiers were handled very differently in the 1st edition. But like the 1982 edition, dexterity (agility) increases hit points at a greater rate than strength in that edition as well--except that dexterity modifiers max out much sooner than strength.

Majestic wrote on Sep 28^th, 2009 at 10:56pm:


I don't remember if the 16th-17th level experience chasm appeared on my errata sheet. Either way, I believe it was a typo for the following reasons.

The original edition doesn't print the experience chart totals but instead says that it takes 2,000 xp to move from 1st level to 2nd level, then another 3,000 xp to get to 3rd level .... and another 15,000 to get to 15th level, and another 16,000 to get to 16th level, and another 17,000 to get to 17th level, etc., without a break in the pattern.

In the revised rules, the experience chart totals show that moving from 15th to 16th level requires 16,000 xp, yet moving from 16th to 17th level requires 77,000 xp--making it very easy to deconstruct what happened. Someone was typing the numbers into a calculator and accidentally added 77,000 instead of 17,000--and no one double checked those figures.

Further, it takes only 18,000 xp to reach 18th level, etc.--with no mention of 16th-17th levels holding any special significance.

That said, I have no problems with any hero doing a little extra time at 16th level.

Doctor Foom wrote on Sep 29^th, 2009 at 7:52am:


My copy of the 1982 rules includes the word 'possible' ... as noted above. That said, Lightning-Fist is something of an anomally. Most published characters with that power list only one heightened sense. For example, Mace from the Crisis module has tracking; numerous other charactes have only night vision.

As with any wildcard power, the strength of heightened senses can vary depending on the scope of the campaign, the character's motif and other abilities, and power balance within the game.

Curious about this after a recent discussion on the subject.
Polar Boy is right about the amount of powers stacked under one heading.
Lightning Fist is the odd man out in the Hgt. Senses ability (Probably because this was still early on in the game re-inception).
I believe if there is a true or obvious calling for stacking of senses, there should be no issues with it. Though I do believe with some senses such as let's say night vision... there should (Possibly) be some PR hit per hour as flight (as they switch their senses... it isn't like their vision is any different than ours unless stated
EXAMPLE: Always sees in the ultraviolet spectrum
It is my opinion they turn on the ability... if not the ability could actually work against them...
EXAMPLE 2: If some hero always had infra-vision or saw in the infrared spectrum... they would be at a disadvantage in the daytime if they could not shut it off, as heat sources would balloon in magnitude.
EXAMPLE 3: Super hearing would be a disadvantage if the hero always heard at SUPER HEARING level, the world would be a swarm of noise to them.
I don't see much difference in and why some senses have have PRs and some don't (like many of those listed in the Hgt Senses descriptions).
Telepathy is listed as a paranormal sense... the ability of one to sense the minds of others. Using this power they can superiorly emulate the ability of what Lightning Fist does, only within an immediate range.
SIDE NOTE: I had one tricky Telepath get Hgt Senses and used it as an extended telepathic tracking... I.E; he could track residual thoughts/impressions even after the person was out of his range. But lots of things could muck it up. He had to be able to continuously lock on something that had the residual impressions upon it (A recently worn piece of clothing or some object of thiers). I considered this a power in and of itself just because the forces of nature could not wipe this easily away (But he had to deal with the residual patterns that were left everywhere).

Animals (mutant or human-hybrid types) seem to be the ones who probably would gain the most senses (because... well... it makes sense). As Polar Boy stated most of the time this sense is like "Night Vision", but animals (unlike humans) rely more on their other senses... but these are usually are used in the pursuit of food or warning of danger so they can flee (Though a case could probably be made for human trained Guard Dogs).
I would love to hear everyone's opinion on this stuff and more on their own thoughts of this "loose end" power.

G7

As far as Heightened Senses goes, you're also forgetting about Tomahawk, from to Tackle the TOTEM. His Heightened Senses provide him with three separate abilities:

a. Tracking Ability: Save vs INT on 1d20, -1 per hour old trail. If trail lost, can make detect hidden roll to pick it up again.
b. Sixth Sense: 3x Detect Danger
c. Night Vision: Self Explanatory

Thanks, PB!