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Jun 17th, 2010 at 10:10pm
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This is my first time posting here. I just want to apologize for violating the rules and trying to put multiple posts here. It's just that Jeff Dee and I have some pretty big news to announce and we wanted to make sure that everyone got the message.
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 10:10pm
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VILLAINS AND VIGILANTES™ RETURNS!

THE CLASSIC TABLETOP RPG IS NOW PUBLISHED BY MONKEY HOUSE GAMES™

June 27, 2010 is the release date for "VILLAINS AND VIGILANTES™ 2.1" from MONKEY HOUSE GAMES™. Virtually unavailable for the last two decades, VILLAINS AND VIGILANTES™ is back!

In 1979, JEFF DEE and JACK HERMAN created the original VILLAINS AND VIGILANTES™, the game that brought classic comic book style adventurers into the world of role-playing games. It inspired thousands of crossover fans between comics and gaming, and spawned dozens of imitations.
VILLAINS AND VIGILANTES™ is legendary among role-playing games for its random super-powered character generation system, its accessible, open and fast-paced rules, and the imaginative, far-ranging campaign universe created by Jeff Dee and Jack Herman.

This latest version of the game- dubbed version 2.1- revives the popular 1982 Revised Edition with some rules additions. It also features brand new illustrations from co-creator Jeff Dee, whose RPG game art has developed a longtime following.

"Jeff Dee and I are Monkey House Games." announced Jack Herman, "Effective immediately, V&V is back in the hands of its creators, right where it should be. We’ve both dreamed of this opportunity for a very long time, and we can’t wait for you to see what we’ve done with the old place."
Dee and Herman both credited the "ferociously loyal legion of online fans and players" as a driving force in the revival. "You carried the torch for decades and never faltered. This is a testament to your power and your will. You effectively brought our game back from the dead. We are in awe and we thank you."

According to Herman, there are currently new adventures and campaign material in the pipeline. "This is the perfect time for new players to jump in, but the die-hards that have been following V&V since its earlier incarnation will be right at home. You’ll get to reconnect with the very same game world Jeff and I previously ran, drew and wrote about- only this time it’ll be bigger, better and more. If players have even half as much fun playing it as we’re having working on it, this will be something you won’t want to miss.”

VILLIANS AND VIGILANTES™ 2.1 will be available June 27, 2010 from RPGNow.

Monkey House Games products are available from RPGNow and its affiliates at:
http://www.rpgnow.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=3246

VILLAINS AND VIGILANTES™ is the classic tabletop role-playing game of comic book style costumed crime fighters created by Jeff Dee and Jack Herman.

MONKEY HOUSE GAMES™ is the game company created by Jeff Dee and Jack Herman for the release of all material relating to the VILLAINS AND VIGILANTES™ Universe.

For further information, please visit www.monkeyhousegames.com
  
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Reply #2 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 10:12pm
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WOW, Great news!  I will definatly be waiting to buy the new V&V products!   Thanks  for posting such awsome news!

And welcome, I hope you find this place fun, if not for you and Jeff, this place wouldn't be around!
  

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Reply #3 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 10:38pm
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Monkey House Jack wrote on Jun 17th, 2010 at 10:10pm:
"Jeff Dee and I are Monkey House Games." announced Jack Herman, "Effective immediately, V&V is back in the hands of its creators, right where it should be. We’ve both dreamed of this opportunity for a very long time, and we can’t wait for you to see what we’ve done with the old place."Dee and Herman both credited the "ferociously loyal legion of online fans and players" as a driving force in the revival. "You carried the torch for decades and never faltered. This is a testament to your power and your will. You effectively brought our game back from the dead. We are in awe and we thank you."

Does this mean FGU no longer owns the game?
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 10:51pm
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Mr. Herman, welcome to the sight. This is great news. I'd also like to say how much I've not only enjoyed your gamine work, but your run as the writer on the Elementals comic. Great stuff, and I look forward to seeing anything you guys come up with.
  

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Reply #5 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 10:53pm
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Mike wrote on Jun 17th, 2010 at 10:38pm:
Monkey House Jack wrote on Today at 10:10pm:"Jeff Dee and I are Monkey House Games." announced Jack Herman, "Effective immediately, V&V is back in the hands of its creators, right where it should be. We’ve both dreamed of this opportunity for a very long time, and we can’t wait for you to see what we’ve done with the old place."Dee and Herman both credited the "ferociously loyal legion of online fans and players" as a driving force in the revival. "You carried the torch for decades and never faltered. This is a testament to your power and your will. You effectively brought our game back from the dead. We are in awe and we thank you." Does this mean FGU no longer owns the game

Interesting. I'm curious about this too.  Smiley
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 11:07pm
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Is it June 27th yet? Will there be a print copy of this?!?!?
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 6:38am
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Great news! Smiley

Cheers!
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Reply #8 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 11:57am
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Yes, awesome news!  I want to second what dsumner said - I loved your writing on Elementals, Jack!
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 3:09pm
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Very interested if there will be a dead tree version as well.

Also, this will be compatible with what I already have, V&V wise?
  
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Reply #10 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 4:28pm
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Hey,

For the sake of finding everyone's questions and their answers, I am going to merge all these into one post.   That way we can find all the information we are seeking that much faster.
  

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Reply #11 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 11:56pm
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Awesome news!  I'm really hoping the modifications lean toward the hints Jeff gave here.  I'm definitely looking forward to checking it out.
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 12:09pm
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I'll second that.  I don't want to see a complete revamping (which makes me hopeful, being as they chose to call it 2.1 instead of 3.0).
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 10:58pm
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Will you be able to buy a hard copy of the book, or is it only available as a down loadable file?
  
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Hawk wrote on Jun 17th, 2010 at 10:58pm:
Will you be able to buy a hard copy of the book, or is it only available as a down loadable file?


Pdf first. We'll follow that up with a print version asap.

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Reply #15 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 11:38am
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Which company now owns the legal trademark to V&V?
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Reply #16 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 2:32pm
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Jeff Dee wrote on Jun 18th, 2010 at 11:33am:
Hawk wrote on Jun 17th, 2010 at 10:58pm:
Will you be able to buy a hard copy of the book, or is it only available as a down loadable file?


Pdf first. We'll follow that up with a print version asap.


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That sucks I prefer having a book to pdf means i'll have to wait longer
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Reply #17 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 10:34pm
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Hope no one minds that I reposted this to my meetup group.

Of course I gave the post the heading of "Holy Flying Monkeys Batman!!!!!!"
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 4:28pm
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This is incredible. Congrats Jack and Jeff. Damn, it's been a long road. You guys must be thrilled. Well done and well deserved!!
Wow.
  
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Wow, this is really great news!  I for one am really excited about seeing what Jack and Jeff come out with!    Smiley
  
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With so many posts, I'm going to reiterate a question from before: Which company now owns the legal trademark to V&V?
  
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Monkeyhouse Games has the legal trademark on it now or they couldn't be putting out a 2.1 version.
  
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Reply #22 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 7:02pm
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I guess now I know what I can ask the Little Devil to get me as a belated Fathers Day gift............
  
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Reply #23 - Jun 19th, 2010 at 12:13am
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Duroon wrote on Jun 18th, 2010 at 2:50pm:
Monkeyhouse Games has the legal trademark on it now or they couldn't be putting out a 2.1 version.

It's not in the press release, though. And FGU still has V&V materials on their site. Very interesting. I'd love to hear more details.
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Reply #24 - Jun 19th, 2010 at 1:29am
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Yeah, that's right. I just went back to check and you can still buy the 2.0 rules and many modules directly from FGU (as I've done in the past).

http://www.fantasygamesunlimited.net/category/Villains-and-Vigilantes-8

And all the free products form this spring are still up:

http://www.fantasygamesunlimited.net/page7.html

Hearing the official word on the trademark would be interesting--just because it's been so blogged about over the years.  Smiley
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Reply #25 - Jun 19th, 2010 at 8:56am
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My brother informed me about this last night - I've really got only three words:

TOTAL
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Messers Herman and Dee...Thank you.  This is an event I've been dreaming about since the late '80s, and you have every guarantee that I'll be doing my utmost to support Monkey House Games in its efforts to bring V&V back to the gaming tables.

You guys did it first and you did it best.  Hoping that we'll be the recipients of updates regarding the upcoming hardcopy/.pdf releases over the coming weeks.

A fundamental part of my mis-spent youth has returned... Smiley
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For just a moment I thought it was my brother, who also had a PC named Tempest!   Smiley

Welcome, Tempest!    Smiley
  
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Reply #27 - Jun 20th, 2010 at 1:19am
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Hello everyone--

I went out for drinks with an old friend from high school yesterday, and heard the 2.1 news.

So what happened?

Did Herman and Dee purchase the rights from FGU?

Did the FGU contract expire?

Does the trademark agreenment allow for FGU and Monkey House to both publish V&V materials?

Or is Monkey House publishing V&V 2.1 in spite of any possible trademark infringements and planning on sorting out the details later?

I've been involved in trademark/copyright negotiations for my firm and am curious about the details. I couldn't garnish much from the press release.
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Reply #28 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:05pm
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Also, I don't want to get into the politics of their relationships, so don't ask me about that. What I do know is that I have been blessed to be allowed to work on new material (which is going swimmingly I might add).

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Reply #29 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 1:06pm
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AlabasterKnight wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:03pm:
Jack's 'press release' is a bit premature.
Sorry to be a spoiler, but Mr. Herman and Mr. Dee are putting the cart before the horse, I believe.

FGU still owns the copyright and trademark for V&V.

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I guess we will see how this plays out on the 27th. As no one here is a copyright lawyer (at least no one I am aware of) I don't think any of us can say who is in the right or wrong at this point. I can say that I will be online as early as possible on the 27th buying the newest version of V&V.
  
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Reply #30 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 1:11pm
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I removed my earlier post to clarify that I take no position as an official spokesperson for FGU. What I can say is V&V will have new material soon.
  

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Duroon wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 1:06pm:
I guess we will see how this plays out on the 27th. As no one here is a copyright lawyer (at least no one I am aware of) I don't think any of us can say who is in the right or wrong at this point.

Well put.


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I can say that I will be online as early as possible on the 27th buying the newest version of V&V. 

Me too.
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Welcome to these boards, AlabasterKnight!   Smiley
  
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Reply #33 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 8:28pm
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Yes, welcome, AlabasterKnight! Hope to get to know you!
  
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AlabasterKnight wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 1:11pm:
I removed my earlier post to clarify that I take no position as an official spokesperson for FGU. What I can say is V&V will have new material soon.


Thanks for that clarification, AlabasterKnight.

Since no official spokesperson for FGU has disputed Monkey House Games' rights to V&V (not to the press, not on their web site, not on any forum I know of), I recommend that everybody relax. Jack and I are absolutely confident.

Well, Jack's a little bit twitchy, maybe. But cut him some slack. He's a Monkey Smiley

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