I'd like to add, by the way, that anyone who is currently writing V&V adventures for FGU is welcome to contact me privately (jeff@monkeyhousegames.com) to discuss moving their projects over to Monkey House.

-Jeff Dee
Monkey House Games

Jeff Dee wrote on Jun 18^th, 2010 at 11:33am:


It still may be too soon to say, but will we be able to get a hardcopy from our Friendly Local Game Store.

The owner of my FLGS is also an old time V&V player, he is interested in having a couple hard copies around the store. You should have seen his eyes bug out when I mentioned that you guys were putting out a new updated version of the rules!

I know, I've been calling everyone I used to play with... I hope we flood the site when the new version becomes available.

Jeff Dee wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 8:15am:


Have any official spokespeople from FGU responded to Monkey House Games directly? What have they had to say?

Guardian7 wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 4:23pm:


Check out FGU's website:
http://www.fantasygamesunlimited.net/

Yep, they've got a submmission process to go through. So far they've only posted writer guidelines. Jeff is supposed to post submission guidelines for artists at some later date.

True, but he did ask pretty specifically if Jeff and Jack wanted some work done.

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Just wanted to make sure he got pointed in the right direction to talk with Jeff and Jack if that's what he really wants. Again, no wish to stir up any arguments on the subject.

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If you're going to post something like this, you should at least give your sources.

And what was FGI Inc.?

I'm going to start calling Allen "Deep Throat" until he reveals his sources. 

Where do you get 'shut down for non-payment of taxes' being an intelligent or relevant argument? We don't need your link; posting it hasn't done anything for me to 'buy' that you know what it means anyway.
Um, yea, when articles of incorporation are dissolved by a state, it's because the company stop paying the corporate tax to incorporate in that state. That dissolution occurred in 1991 or 92... FGU came to AZ to do business in 1987 where Scott didn't have all the same business restrictions and costs that make it so hard to operate a business in NY. He is doing business with a license legally here since 1987 and has done so continuously and seamlessly and is recognized legally by the people who count down at the courthouse, so it doesn't  matter what form his organization takes; it is still here. You saying FGU doesn't exist and repeating it while clicking your heels together isn't having a lot of effect... pass that to your source.

I'm sorry you don't 'buy' it. Maybe you'll end up mumbling somewhere on a street corner cursing ghostly sources who have spun your head. I've done everything but build a house for you to try and be honest with you all this time man. Yea, I've got my bias, but I also have a background that has relevance to all this including publishing, printing, graphic design and illustration, project management, business law, and contract administration. You don't buy it because it's not what you want to hear.

From your link:
Current Entity Status: INACTIVE - Dissolution by Proclamation / Annulment of Authority (Sep 25, 1991) 

See? INACTIVE 1991... duhhhhh ARIZONA 1987.

ARIZONA. "DBA" is a perfectly acceptable business for here that does not need to register new articles to maintain stature as an entity...

Sick of trying to explain it you. 

Hi Everyone,

I'm not Jack Herman! 

Red Tornado wrote on Oct 5^th, 2010 at 5:10pm:


Welcome to the site Red.

Again, not stirring, but to clarify something misleading that Duroon has said.
MHG filed an application to acquire the trademark.
FGU filed an application to reinforce its continued use by its owner.
But...
Yea, don't let the lawyer thing sour you, V&V is awesome and will only continue to be that much more!
EDIT: Scott will post a release when he feels it is appropriate to do so.

I think it's crappy that Mr. Dee wants to stop people from buying a V and V adventure when he was paid to do art for that adventure--unless he's returning the money he was paid for the art.

I think he should put fans above trademark disputes. If Jeff Dee has a problem with FGU, he should contact them instead of telling his fans what to buy, IMV.

Lately, he hasn't done much to contribute to the MHG or Yahoo forums except to tell people that they are unauthorized.

It really makes it hard to enjoy the game.

If the battle is between the lawyers, then I wish he would keep it to the lawyers and not put fans in the middle.

So far I've only purchased the MHG materials.

I've wanted to buy the FGU materials, but I keep reading Jeff Dee telling us not to. The Sub-Realms dispute was the last straw, though.

I'm tired of acting like Jeff Dee's drone. 

AlabasterKnight wrote on Oct 5^th, 2010 at 6:05pm:



In the same vein as AK but on the other side of this fence personally. I won't say don't buy FGU material, those guys (AK and DaveW, plus others) put a lot of hard work into those materials. But I won't buy them due to my own personal reasons. I wouldn't say no to someone giving me any of it though lol! I have seen some of AK's and Dave's work, it is good stuff, make your own decisions about what to buy, for your own reasons.

Then make sure you get someone to sit down and play the game with you!

Points taken.