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iggy rock Sidekick Offline I Love V&V! Posts: 46 Joined: Apr 14^th, 2010	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #105 - Apr 15^th, 2010 at 8:12pm	Print Post
	Majestic wrote on Apr 15^th, 2010 at 2:16pm: Hey, that's cool if you can get away without it!Most groups I've seen have functioned in somewhat of a paramilitary fashion, at least in regards to combat and quick decisions on the battlefield.If you can get away without it, more power to you! One other note is that - especially with certain personalities - it can lead to some tremendous role-playing opportunities! As much as I love Trek, I don't get into the whole military schpeal with superheroes. As for tremendous role-playing opportunities, I think you can have that with or without a given leader. You already pointed out that you might have more than one leader depending on the situation. Why stop with two. "Storm, you'll be the leader when it comes to aerial maneuvers and weather manipulation... "Colossus, you'll be the leader when it comes to lifting heavy objects and acting like you're shy when you're really just kinda dull... "Nightcrawler, you'll lead when we have to hide in the dark and make whoopy-cushion noises... "Iceman, you are the leader of keeping the beer cold."


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Doctor Foom Justice Leaguer Offline Silver Age relic Posts: 752 Joined: May 17^th, 2009	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #106 - Apr 16^th, 2010 at 9:44am	Print Post
	Majestic wrote on Apr 15^th, 2010 at 2:16pm: One other note is that - especially with certain personalities - it can lead to some tremendous role-playing opportunities! True. So does the election of a leader. Also, team leaders are such a quintessential comic book thing.
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Natasha Sidekick Offline V&V is Vunderful Posts: 11 Joined: Apr 15^th, 2010	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #107 - Apr 16^th, 2010 at 6:53pm	Print Post
	Our group is made of up friendly neighborhood anarchists. We don't need no stinkin' leader!


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Super Soccer Mom Sidekick Offline I Love V&V! Posts: 13 Joined: Apr 18^th, 2010	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #108 - Apr 19^th, 2010 at 8:12pm	Print Post
	Doctor Foom wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2009 at 2:01pm: Either way, all sheets are approved by the PCs at the end of the creation process. Doctor Foom wrote on Aug 4^th, 2009 at 10:17am: True. You never know how people will react. In my case, the player was unhappy about it, so I began to exit the secret weakness. Then he embraced it and was emailing me every day with his ideas on how cool it would be. Then before I could use it, he was against it again. His participation in the game was a little erratic to say the least. How can a player approve his character sheet and have a secret weakness?


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Avatar Avenger Offline I Love Comic's and RP. V&V got me started Posts: 457 Location: Kokomo, Indiana Joined: Oct 12^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #109 - Apr 20^th, 2010 at 1:42pm	Print Post
	Super Soccer Mom wrote on Apr 19^th, 2010 at 8:12pm: Doctor Foom wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2009 at 2:01pm: Either way, all sheets are approved by the PCs at the end of the creation process. Doctor Foom wrote on Aug 4^th, 2009 at 10:17am: True. You never know how people will react. In my case, the player was unhappy about it, so I began to exit the secret weakness. Then he embraced it and was emailing me every day with his ideas on how cool it would be. Then before I could use it, he was against it again. His participation in the game was a little erratic to say the least. How can a player approve his character sheet and have a secret weakness? The way i have always done it is to give the player hints to the weakness during gameplay

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Super Soccer Mom Sidekick Offline I Love V&V! Posts: 13 Joined: Apr 18^th, 2010	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #110 - Apr 20^th, 2010 at 1:54pm	Print Post
	That still doesn't get to my question to Doctor Foom: How can a player approve a character sheet if the weakness is only hinted at during gameplay? Unless, do you tell the player when they might have an additional weakness? Is that how it works? I'm still confused. I'm curious because it involves a situation affecting my family's game.


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John Galactus Offline The Master Cylinder Posts: 6693 Location: Selden Joined: Apr 11^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #111 - Apr 20^th, 2010 at 11:40pm	Print Post
	I can't answer for Dr Foom, but the Oni's current character the Dark Warrior a weakness that he doesn't know. He just took it in stride and is having fun figuring out what the hell it is. I would like to think that he trust me not to just mess with him for the sake of messing with him. But Oni likes the challenging character to role play. So he is cool with it. I wouldn't give a secret weakness to just anyone.

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Super Soccer Mom Sidekick Offline I Love V&V! Posts: 13 Joined: Apr 18^th, 2010	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #112 - Apr 20^th, 2010 at 11:47pm	Print Post
	John wrote on Apr 20^th, 2010 at 11:40pm: I can't answer for Dr Foom, but the Oni's current character the Dark Warrior a weakness that he doesn't know. He just took it in stride and is having fun figuring out what the hell it is. I would like to think that he trust me not to just mess with him for the sake of messing with him. But Oni likes the challenging character to role play. So he is cool with it. I wouldn't give a secret weakness to just anyone. Anyone named Dark Warrior is kind of asking for a secret weakness! But I was asking Foom because of his notes about approving a character sheet while not knowing a weakness. Not sure I follow how that works. I completely understand trusting a GM. Especially if the GM has earned that trust and doesn't say, forget/change/rearrange details, etc., or that new revelations don't contradict things already established. That kind of capriciousness can make it seem like the GM is screwing with the player on a whim in a way. Depends on the situation. It's hard having to be a referee in a case like that. By the way John: I get the sense that you're a good GM. You seem to think through your House Rules and are very up front with your persepctive. You seem like a seasoned pro!
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John Galactus Offline The Master Cylinder Posts: 6693 Location: Selden Joined: Apr 11^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #113 - Apr 20^th, 2010 at 11:53pm	Print Post
	Super Soccer Mom wrote on Apr 20^th, 2010 at 11:47pm: By the way John: I get the sense that you're a good GM. You seem to think through your House Rules and are very up front with your persepctive. You seem like a seasoned pro! I got one person on my side, and your not even one of my players! Can you PM my players and convince them now?
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Super Soccer Mom Sidekick Offline I Love V&V! Posts: 13 Joined: Apr 18^th, 2010	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #114 - Apr 20^th, 2010 at 11:56pm	Print Post
	John wrote on Apr 20^th, 2010 at 11:53pm: I got one person on my side, and your not even one of my players! Can you PM my players and convince them now? I only get asked to referee or sit in an play the part of NPCs for my own family's/friends game group!


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Avatar Avenger Offline I Love Comic's and RP. V&V got me started Posts: 457 Location: Kokomo, Indiana Joined: Oct 12^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #115 - Apr 21^st, 2010 at 4:03pm	Print Post
	I have been playing Champions for a long time. have been unsuccessful in getting my players to go back to V&V. We us a free forum website for blue booking and some role playing between sessions. (we meet every other friday) This is the first time i have given any thought to pbem. I have been reading the posts for the game and have to agree it does read like fan fiction. It rocks! If anyone is putting together another pbem let us know. I would love to try and i could play V&V again. i am a stay at home dad so my time is fairly open Keep posting the game journals,it's like waiting on the next issue of a favorite comic to hit newstands

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THE ONI Galactus Offline I Roll Too Many 20's Posts: 2695 Location: Long Island, New York Joined: Apr 19^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #116 - Apr 24^th, 2010 at 8:32pm	Print Post
	John wrote on Apr 20^th, 2010 at 11:40pm: I can't answer for Dr Foom, but the Oni's current character the Dark Warrior a weakness that he doesn't know. He just took it in stride and is having fun figuring out what the hell it is. I would like to think that he trust me not to just mess with him for the sake of messing with him. But Oni likes the challenging character to role play. So he is cool with it. I wouldn't give a secret weakness to just anyone. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN HE HAS A SECRET WEAKNESS???!!! Right now our poor friend Wally can go from a Crazed killing machine to a Blubbering baby depending on the situation. He has no clue what one of his powers can do. Anybody who wants to check his back round to see why he's a little off the Deep End can read The Dark Warrior Rebirth(shameless plug) from the beginning.


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THE ONI Galactus Offline I Roll Too Many 20's Posts: 2695 Location: Long Island, New York Joined: Apr 19^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #117 - Apr 24^th, 2010 at 8:46pm	Print Post
	John wrote on Apr 20^th, 2010 at 11:53pm: Super Soccer Mom wrote on Apr 20^th, 2010 at 11:47pm: By the way John: I get the sense that you're a good GM. You seem to think through your House Rules and are very up front with your persepctive. You seem like a seasoned pro! I got one person on my side, and your not even one of my players! Can you PM my players and convince them now? No she may not!! Attacking poor Wally like that by saying he deserves a Secret weakness just because of his name. How typical, the poor guy does have Darkness Control and He is a Warrior so it fits. Hey we were 13 when he was created. Actually maybe I can use some maternal influence so PM away!!!! heh, heh.....


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The Cougar Avenger Offline Roll 1d20 against ... Posts: 438 Location: McKinney, TX Joined: Oct 4^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #118 - Apr 25^th, 2010 at 11:32am	Print Post
	I have been reading back issues of Vanguard when they fought Homicide for Hire. The issues are absolutely fantastic!!! I love the way you GMed the HoH team, so well done!! The Vanguard players were awesome as always. I am still surprised that 1 turn per issue doesn't feel like it bogs down too slowly. The pacing of these issues are great! I read your earlier posting on how you changed the initiative to fit PBEM (stop Agility escalation). Is there anything else you are thinking about the V&V combat turn that could be changed that would make it a better PBEM medium?

	V&V character creation is too much fun. - Doctor Foom Megalopolis PBEM http://vav-megalopolis-pbem.blogspot.com/
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Doctor Foom Justice Leaguer Offline Silver Age relic Posts: 752 Joined: May 17^th, 2009	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #119 - May 7^th, 2010 at 5:20pm	Print Post
	The Cougar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2010 at 11:32am: I have been reading back issues of Vanguard when they fought Homicide for Hire.The issues are absolutely fantastic!!! I love the way you GMed the HoH team, so well done!! The Vanguard players were awesome as always. That was a fun run. I like supervillain teams. The Cougar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2010 at 11:32am: I am still surprised that 1 turn per issue doesn't feel like it bogs down too slowly.The pacing of these issues are great! I read your earlier posting on how you changed the initiative to fit PBEM (stop Agility escalation).Is there anything else you are thinking about the V&V combat turn that could be changed that would make it a better PBEM medium? No, but I'm open to suggestions. V&V isn't the best game for PBEM (which works especially well with non-combat, character stuff imho). I just need to play V&V in some way and I can't swing face to face schedule-wise. So I'm happy to hear it's not dragging for you.


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Doctor Foom Justice Leaguer Offline Silver Age relic Posts: 752 Joined: May 17^th, 2009	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #120 - May 7^th, 2010 at 5:23pm	Print Post
	Still catching up on loading the site. New stuff: -Our newest player character: Menagerie! http://vanguardhq.blogspot.com/search/label/character%20sheets -Issue 109, which continues a bunch of solo adventures for our heroes: http://vanguardhq.blogspot.com/2010/05/vanguard-issue-109-and-then-there-were.ht...


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Doctor Foom Justice Leaguer Offline Silver Age relic Posts: 752 Joined: May 17^th, 2009	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #121 - Jun 1^st, 2010 at 9:44pm	Print Post
	Still digging out. Issues 110 and 111 are up, continuing the solo adventures. http://vanguardhq.blogspot.com/2010/05/vanguard-issue-110-solo-stories-of.html http://vanguardhq.blogspot.com/2010/05/vanguard-issue-111-astounding.html Also, the players share who they wish could write and draw their character's comicbook: http://vanguardhq.blogspot.com/2010/05/vanguard-creative-teams.html


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Carpenter Sidekick Offline I Love V&V! Posts: 29 Joined: May 31^st, 2010	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #122 - Jun 14^th, 2010 at 9:06pm	Print Post
	I noticed someone named Gadget Girl on your thread. There have been a few posts about different ways of handling inventors in V&V. How are you handling those abilities with this unique character?


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Doctor Foom Justice Leaguer Offline Silver Age relic Posts: 752 Joined: May 17^th, 2009	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #123 - Jun 18^th, 2010 at 4:42pm	Print Post
	Hey Carpenter, thanks for the interest. I try not to reveal powers and sheets of NPCs as a few players come to these boards. There was a thread on gadgets and inventing here that had some great ideas. Of course now I can't track it down.
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Doctor Foom Justice Leaguer Offline Silver Age relic Posts: 752 Joined: May 17^th, 2009	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #124 - Jun 18^th, 2010 at 4:44pm	Print Post
	Issue 112 is up, continuing the solo adventures: http://vanguardhq.blogspot.com/2010/06/vanguard-issue-112-amazing-action.html


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Carpenter Sidekick Offline I Love V&V! Posts: 29 Joined: May 31^st, 2010	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #125 - Jun 18^th, 2010 at 5:01pm	Print Post
	Doctor Foom wrote on Jun 18^th, 2010 at 4:42pm: Hey Carpenter, thanks for the interest. I try not to reveal powers and sheets of NPCs as a few players come to these boards. Makes sense. I didn't know if you already had it written up as a power variation as part of your standard house rules. But I respect trade secrets. Gadget Girl seems like a fun character.


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Doctor Foom Justice Leaguer Offline Silver Age relic Posts: 752 Joined: May 17^th, 2009	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #126 - Jun 29^th, 2010 at 2:41pm	Print Post
	Thanks. Issues 113 and 114 are up, and I'm finally caught up! http://vanguardhq.blogspot.com/2010/06/vanguard-issue-114-titanic-treasury-of.ht...


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Doctor Foom Justice Leaguer Offline Silver Age relic Posts: 752 Joined: May 17^th, 2009	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #127 - Aug 9^th, 2010 at 3:26pm	Print Post
	115 and 116 are up. This was a different arc for me: every character had their own mini-series story that ran concurrent to each other. It let me explore some personal sub-plots, and ideas that didn't warrant the whole team getting involved.


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Majestic Justice Leaguer Offline Guardian of Earth Posts: 5179 Location: Seattle Joined: Jun 8^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #128 - Aug 10^th, 2010 at 4:09pm	Print Post
	Man, you guys are cranking through the issues! We just did #317, but that particular group started in late 1992! About how many play sessions do you end up having per issue? (there's of course no right or wrong number, I'm just curious). For ours it's often one session = one issue, but occasionally we'll have two whole sessions fit into one issue.


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Doctor Foom Justice Leaguer Offline Silver Age relic Posts: 752 Joined: May 17^th, 2009	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #129 - Aug 10^th, 2010 at 8:35pm	Print Post
	It's play by email, and I send out a new issue every two weeks on average. The players get a week and a half to write replies and then I use the last half week to create the next issue.


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Majestic Justice Leaguer Offline Guardian of Earth Posts: 5179 Location: Seattle Joined: Jun 8^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #130 - Aug 11^th, 2010 at 5:31pm	Print Post
	Doctor Foom wrote on Aug 10^th, 2010 at 8:35pm: It's play by email, and I send out a new issue every two weeks on average. The players get a week and a half to write replies and then I use the last half week to create the next issue. Makes sense. You guys will pass us up before you know it!


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Doctor Foom Justice Leaguer Offline Silver Age relic Posts: 752 Joined: May 17^th, 2009	Re: Vanguard adventures! Reply #131 - Aug 14^th, 2010 at 9:27am	Print Post
	Well I don't know about that. Has your campaign run uninterrupted all that time? That's incredible.


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