You can introduce "combined powers" to V&V.  I saw this concept in the Immortal Rules for Dungeons and Dragons (player's guide, page 6):

"Ability scores of cooperating Immortals may be added together for purposes of making a check. What one Immortal may find almost impossible, two or three may consider easy when working together"

Ironnerd wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2013 at 12:55pm:


Considering that you're introducing a new type of opponent that *requires* teamwork, I would think that it would be perfectly reasonable for you to at least make some suggestions on how to combine powers.  In fact, I think it's unreasonable for you not to.

Power stunts from inventing points can do this.   And if its two people, they can use half of a point from one, half from the other ( or other fractions if its more than two...).   

I have had a Kaiju ( is that how you spell it?) attack my players every once in a while.

Cool!  So will you release this adventure with the ruleset?  Maybe a "sample mini-adventure" kind of thing?  Or are you doing a full-scale adventure?

Just to let ya'll know, the Freebie "Attack of the Really Big Thing" has been removed from the FGU site.
Thanks to the help I received from you'se guys, I am confident enough in the guidelines to include them in a couple of adventures (already in work). Also, due to input from you'se guys the current guidelines are not well-represented by the file that was on the FGU page.

Thank-you all very much for your input, I really appreciate the help. 

So, I admit to totally over-complicating this. The rules are really mostly there in the V&V core rules, you just need to extend the size/wt table and add some powers to address the horrid AGL penalties for a big critter/mecha. But I do thank y'all for looking at the experiment. It was also very nice of Scott to indulge me a little.

For my next trick, I'll see what I can do with the rules as they are. Maybe I'll post a plus-sized-critter/character here for "Peer Review" I mean... How would ya'll do Galactus?

Machines (star ships, giant piloted robots, etc...) are actually much easier than big critters, since they can just be made up ('cause it's a comic book game).  Big critters have to follow some rules. If I had some more players around here, I could test stuff a lot faster... [violin music].

Still pondering Super Sentai teams (multiple entities that combine into a single big entity more powerful than the sum of its parts).

Didn't we discuss Mutant/Body power, No negative agility modifier at some point?

A Question...

What about attacking like.. a Destroyer Naval vessel or say and aircraft Carrier?  There are non-mecha 'giant-robot' vehicles that are RBT's...

Do you just figure out discrete components on the vehicle to destroy.. Palladium ROBOTECH style.. or does it get really big modifiers to be easily hit and weight multipliers to increase its weight an thus hit points {Vehicles have 1 hit point per 50lbs of weight; 8.6 Vehicles}.

{Examples:}
“Von Stengle”:
– Airship ‘Arcano-Steamtech’ = WT: 25,000lbs, Pass: 100, Cargo CAP: 21,000, Speed: 160mph,
Hit Points:  125di/500de
Decks {1”}: SR5;  Hull {6”}: SR15/cu ft
4x Pylons: SR=15/per 1’ft
4x Drive Pods: ‘prop’ 5di/10de, ‘engine’ 10di/20de ‘-20mph’
4x Lift Rotor: 15di/30de
* Uhrwerken Control = 1,000lbs {FF 75pts} 10di//20de; 
* Lift Control = 6,000lbs, 40di/120de {ADR60}–Ship steel SR15{11 off}
* Boiler = 5 tons, 50di/200de {ADR 75}
* Cloaking Device = Radar, EM Detection, Audio & Visual
* Coal Bin = 2 Tons
- Conversion Cannon = 1mile, 45^deg arc, +15 to hit, (per “medium nuclear bomb") Dam rad ½ mile, 2d100 dam; 4,000lbs, 20di/80de
- 4x Lightning Cannon = 150”, 180^deg arc, Dam 1d20 {As Lightning Control}

The Flying Dutchess:
- prototype “Power-Sail” Yacht = Wt: 16,000lbs, Pass: 1+6, Cargo CAP: 8,000lbs, Speed: 120mph {Air} / 20 {water}
Hit Points:  80di/320de
- 2x Vibratory Cannon = 60”, turret, 2d8 dam per cannon (both may be fi red at same time), 10% chance that a special attack to do so will destroy target completely.

Ah. ok... the reason for this question is for theme.. take for example STAR TREK.  The Enterprise is arguably a location AND a vehicle.  The Question becomes one of scale... it make sense that a man-sized target can't do as much damage to the 'location' "Enterprise" damaging specific components of the location "Enterprise"... but another starship... say the "Excelsior" should be able to damage the 'Vehicle' Enterprise and not just specific components.

How would you suggest adjudicating this situation?

Yeah, thanks for the advice... I'm actually just about to run "From the Deeps of Space" for my New Guardians party... so I was looking for a little more advice on how to handle character to ship and ship to ship space battles.

Though you have made me wonder... if anyone has ever fully deck-planned out the Enterprise?  A five foot multi-layered map of its decks would be totally awesome for a game! lol!

COOL!  Thx!

Yay!  Thanks!

Display Name wrote on Mar 27^th, 2015 at 7:56pm:

No problem. Sorry for all the colors, it's how I do rough work.
The existing rules for size change have the topic kinda covered, it's one of those times it's hinted at but not explicit. What i added just seemed as logical as possible while staying in the spirit of the rules.

I don't mind feedback, so feel free to find errors in the guidelines (not rules, just some guidelines).

Enjoy.

Yay, Phrennzy!  I'm glad you got them in time!

Thank-you, guys. I appreciate the high praise.

But the thanks go to Display Name for making me post it

Phrennzy wrote on Mar 28^th, 2015 at 1:47pm:


Please, Phrennzy! Tell me you have ART for this!!!