Automatic weapon fire.  I mean, I know how I/we interpret them, but I believe they're very confusing, and I have seen over the years how there are multiple interpretations (that all make sense given the vagueness of the RAW).

Grappling. 

Paul wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 7:35pm:

Explosives? Or some specific version of blowing stuff up?

@ AlabasterKnight Are you saying the ranges are too great and the to hit mods to low, or that the to-hit mods should be larger smaller?

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Range in our games never seems to come up, as 99.9% of attacks happen within 30" of each other.  I can't even remember the time somebody had a -1 from range.

Gravity Control.

RAMBLE

@ AlabasterKnight
I kinda figured that was your issue with range. You do make an excellent point though. The difference happens because I play V&V to escape reality, so it's "unrealness" has never been much of an issue to me - I revel in it. I've always thought of V&V as a rather cinematic game anyway and not so much as a simulation of an alternate reality - so, for me, the R.A.W. works quite well. You play a much more imaginative and detail oriented game than I do, and I can see where you may find some rules limiting.

What house rule would you propose to address the range issue? There must be something churning about in that fertile mind of yours.

@everyone else
I'm not ignoring you, I'm taking notes I want to get as many points of confusion as I can before I begin to pontificate.

I do not, however, want this to be "John sez do it this way" - because that's not what this is. I will give you my weird view of the rules, but I would actually prefer to see everyone else's interpretations of the rules or their questions about the rules as written.

Okay, but to be fair, your character would also need an Agility of 98,304 to fire a rifle at a target 900 miles away (which would give him all kinds of other insane bonuses...), but like I said above, it's never been a really big issue to me.

Other systems handle range differently (obviously). I kinda like the system from Mekton Z+.

Range is the basic, unmodified range. So for a rifle it's Ax10, ±0 to hit
Short range is 1/2(Ax10), +1 to hit
Long Range is (Ax10)+1 to 2x(Ax10), -4 to hit
Extreme Range is (2x(ax10)+1 to 3x(Ax10), -8 to hit. Beyond Extreme Range, the attack cannot be made.

Just my 2¢, I think this may be a topic unto itself.

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Ironnerd wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:


This formula is not accurate.  It's the number of inches fallen that turn (which I think by default would add 100 per turn fallen, but it doesn't say that) times the square root of the object's Basic Hits.

Fortunately, the vast majority of falls happen in a single turn (based on the way combat and ranges work in the game), so that initial number is usually much less than 100.

So if a character (that weighs 200 lbs.) falls for 8" (the height of a typical street light, which is pretty high up there) they would take

8 x 2 = 16 points of damage.

Ironnerd wrote on Jul 13^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:


If your 200lb character fell for three turns, that'd be 100"+200"+300" = 600".  Then 5" more = 605"
605 x sqrt of 4 basic hits (2) = 1200 points of damage.  But you fell 3025 feet, so what do you expect.

John wrote on Jul 13^th, 2015 at 9:44pm:


Ironnerd made the fatal mistake of referring to himself by his real name instead of his forum name.  His name is John as well.  Tsk tsk.

John wrote on Jul 13^th, 2015 at 9:44pm:


I think you told me to go fuck myself on numerous occasions.  Just sayin'

Paul wrote on Jul 14^th, 2015 at 12:42am:
.  True, but I never told you HOW to fuck yourself.

Ironnerd wrote on Jul 14^th, 2015 at 6:49am:


Ah, and totally wrong.  I shouldn't be adding the velocities up.

Leaping was always a pain.

John wrote on Jul 14^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

Sometimes I wish this forum had the like button. That was lol funny

Majestic wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

At first I read that and though "HUH?". But now I see where you are going... And it actually makes sense as well.

Normal damage taken by a falling object equals the number of inches it fell this turn times the square root of the object’s Basic Hits...

• Says nothing about velocity, just inches fallen.

After the first turn of fall, velocity on impact is automatically 200 inches on the second turn, 300 inches on the third, etc. up to a maximum velocity of 1000 inches per turn.

• Now we add the term "velocity", which does bring to mind the "Velocity Damage Bonus" table on page 26 of the rule book.

Very interesting (totally loving this conversation so far)

Nicely played, Majestic... Nicely played. 

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-Ironnerd