See my comments about the Terminator.  I think you loved the New Teen Titans as much as I did.

Now where is the Ding Dong Daddy conversion?

OK, here's my take on Wolverine as he appeared in the late 70's early 80's.

Wolverine



Powers:
1. Mammal Powers:
a) Heightened Strength: +6.
b) Heightened Endurance: +10.
c) Heightened Agility: +6.
d) Heightened Senses: 5x Detect Hidden & Danger; Tracking ability (Scent based, fades with time). Must save vs. INT+1 point per level to successfully track scent. -1 per hour as the scent gets "cold".
2. Bionics: Adamantium Skeleton:
a) +100 lbs. to normal body weight.
b) 8 points Invulnerability. (only against cutting and blunt force damage)
c) Retractable Claws: +3 to hit, +6 Damage.
3. Regeneration (with Mutation): Wolverine heals at three times the normal rate (1.8 points per turn), and is capable of regenerating HP damage caused by any type of attack.
4. Willpower (A): PR=1 per hour when used as a defense.
5. Low Self Control: Berserker Rage: Must save vs. INT or lose control. During his berserker rages he'll attack both friend and foe alike. While "berserk" his regenerative abilities doubles (3.2 points turn), increase his ground speed as though he had Speed Bonus +50", and he uses only ½ as much power to conduct attacks and movement.

S:16
E: 23
A: 18
I:12
C: 16

Weight: 300 lbs.
Basic Hits: 6
Power: 69
Healing Rate: 3.6
Hit Points: 39
+2 to Hit, +3 Accuracy
Carrying Capacity: 757lbs.    
Basic HTH:1d8
Detect Hidden: 50%
Detect Danger: 70%

Notes: I went with both Animal Powers & Bionics as I felt they best simulated his abilities. I threw in the 8 points of invulnerability to simulate the toughness of his "unbreakable" skeleton, and to help him suck up some of the damage that he's usually shown taking. As far as his regeneration goes, he can regenerate small amounts of damage fairly quickly, but even with his healing factor, it still takes him a couple of days to get over a really rough beating, so I just increased the rate at which he healed. His willpower could be used to simulate any number of feats he's been shown over the years, including increasing his ability to regenerate damage. The Low Self Control should simulate his old berserker rages pretty well.

For his stats, I went with a close to peak human performance for his agility, and a superhuman level of endurance. I gave him slightly higher than normal strength, which when combined with his weight and endurance should give him a lift capacity greater than normal humans. While his HP might not be as high as some of you would like, he's already ignoring 8 points of damage every turn (for those of you want to make him tougher I'd suggest increasing it to 10 points per turn), and regenerating close to 4 points of damage per a turn. Comments?

How do you work the healing per phase?    There is no set number of phases per turn, so I don't know how to work this aspect of his power.

I have always considered Wolverine to have Mammal Powers and bionics, in fact, that is how I wrote him up years ago when I did the whole X Men.

Ok so say, he gets three actions that turn, he heals three times?   

OK, but my problem is that he heals based on Aglity rather than Endurance.   I would have him heal automatically between turns no matter what.  Barring beheading, which if I remember correctly, is the only way he can be killed for keeps, he always heals.

I would like to see your conversion for Cyclops and Black Bolt.

I always considered Black Bolt to be one of the few heroes that could not be written in V&V terms.  Hell, Galactus would be easier than him.

Right on. I aways considered his optic blasts to be power blasts, not heat.

Cancel that question. I'm replying to myself. HR .6 is right it's just I'm used to putting the total HP healed in that column so to me that would be 3.6 HP per turn. Basically healing from a bullet wound in 30 seconds. Any thoughts about the fact that the one thing he does not have to heal are his bones?

I would give Cyclops heightened attack, expertise and defence.  Along with some charisma bonus.  That along with his powerblasts and some good training bonuses would make him very formidable.

John wrote on Jun 8^th, 2009 at 10:39pm:


Instead of Heightened Attack, and Defense, I'd chalk it up to training (Just add +1 to either his attack bonus, or a -1 to be hit, per level) as he advanced in levels (look at how he's capable of performing more tasks with time).

Pretty good.   I would also throw in a weakness for redheads.

As promised, here's my take on Havok.

Havok



Identity: Alex Summers
Side: Good           Sex: Male
Level: 15             Training: Accuracy

Powers:
1. Body Power: Plasma Blasts: My be used  in two ways.
A) As a standard Power Blast, with standard range.
B) As blast of explosive force emanating from his body, with 1/2 the range of the standard PB power. 
2. Absorption (Ambient Cosmic Energy):
3. Body Power: Immunity: completely immune to the effects of his brother's (Cyclops) optic blasts
4. Heightened Attack: +1 per level
5. Special Requirement: Must be exposed to Cosmic Energy to recharge his Power

Combat Training:

+4 to hit with Plamsa Blast
-2 to be hit
+1 to hit, +2 in HTH combat

STR: 14
END: 16
AGL: 16
INT: 12
CHR: 16

Notes: With he exception of his Plasma Blasts, Havok is basically a scaled down version Cyclops. (I gave him Heightened Attack to simulate the shear power of his blasts, which are a hell of a lot more powerful than Cyke's optic blasts.

I debated if I should have allowed his powers to work as Disintegration Ray instead of Power Blast, but I figured Power Blast was a little closer to the way his abilities are portrayed.

Comments?

Awesome thank you for posting. 

Although i was pretty sure that cyclops had several versions of attack... a wide beam which did less damage but could cover more to a thin narrow beam which was devistating....  but all of that could be hard to translate.

Both are also immune to each others powers....and get their power through the sun right?

they are awesome though thanks if i need to use them I will use these two as my conversions

What's Kurt's teleportation range? Current Power  x 10" (PR = 2) ... Current Power  x 100" (PR = 3) or sumthin' else?

Hunh?

Don't the base rules say that you pick the PR and maximum range first? Then you use that PR no matter how far y'teleport. (It's not the other way around.)

Plus, at least back in the day NC had a maximum range of about 2-3 miles (although I think that increased)?

If you pick a high enough PR, you can reach the moon, other planets, or across the galaxy. Iz you sayin' that NC can do that?

So, anyone else have any comments on my version of Nightcrawler?

How about something like this...

Physical Handicap: The scent of brimstone and the sound BAMF accompanies Nightcrawler whenever he teleports, making him identifiable and detectable. When Nightcrawler teleports others, they lose 4 Power Points and must save vs. Endurance (d100) or lose one action.

John wrote on Jul 20^th, 2009 at 6:10pm:


Hmmm....I'd forgotten about that. I'll see what I can come up with.

Doctor Foom wrote on Jul 20^th, 2009 at 10:18pm:


I may bump it just a tad, as Jeff Dee gave Robin (Dick Greyson), a pretty high Agility, but he was a trained acrobat.

Doctor Foom wrote on Jul 20^th, 2009 at 10:18pm:


I'll have to go back and look, or see if I can find my hand Handbook to the Marvel Universe, with his listing.

OK, after digging around, I'm reducing the distance that Nightcrawler can teleport, and adjusting his PR requirement.

Well, where's Warren Worthington III?

Mr. Fantastic circa John Byrne's 1980's run

Level: 20

Powers:

1. Heightened Intelligence B: +25

2. Stretching Powers: As per the 2nd edition rules, and Reed can increase his chance to hit: Every +1 to hit incurs a -1 to damage. Up to +4/-4. This simulates his ability to stretch his hands larger.

3. Insulated Costume: Reed's uniform gives Life Support defense against flame, ice, electrical and other weather-related attacks. It's also made of unstable molecules.

Weight: 180 lbs.
Basic Hits: 4

Strength: 14
Endurance: 18
Agility: 15
Intelligence: 40
Charisma: 20

Hit Mod. (1.2)(2.2)(1.6)(2) = 8.448
Hit Points: 34
Power Points: 87

Accuracy: +2, special
Damage Mod.: +6

Detect Hidden: 48% (My house rule adds your level to detect rolls)
Detect Danger: 52% (My house rule adds your level to detect rolls)

Carry Cap: 410 lbs
Basic HTH Damage: d6

Inventions: The Fantasticar, the Baxter Building, the Pogoplane, the door to the Negative Zone, Unstable Molecules, et. al.

Notes:
An admittedly minimalist approach. I think much of what Reed does is handled with the 80 Inventing Points he's accrued over the years.

Endurance was based on Reed's ability to take damage, and also that he's had 20 years of V&V trainings. Like the 1980's Avengers sheets, this translates into maxed out stats.

The Thing circa John Byrne's 1980's run

Level: 20

Powers:

1. Transformation: Permanent*
a. Armor A: 130 points. Weight increase. Armor heals at 5 times Ben's healing rate (65 points) overnight. Monstrous appearance.

b. Heightened Strength B: +30

c. Heightened Endurance B: +18

d. Natural Weaponry: +2, +4 with fists

W: Low Self Control: Ben cannot control his Transformation and is (usually) trapped as the Thing. GM's discretion as to what could reverse the Transformation.

W: Phobia/Psychosis: Ben hates his appearance and would give almost anything to return to normal.

Weight: 640 lbs.
Basic Hits: 13

Strength: 46
Endurance: 33
Agility: 12
Intelligence: 12
Charisma: 18

Hit Mod. (3.4)(4.2)(1.3)(1.1) = 20.4204
Hit Points: 265
Power Points: 103

Accuracy: +1, +3 with fists
Damage Mod.: +1, +5 with fists

Detect Hidden: 30% (My house rule adds your level to detect rolls)
Detect Danger: 34% (My house rule adds your level to detect rolls)

Carry Cap: 32,203 lbs
Basic HTH Damage: 4d10

Notes:
*mostly.

FYI, I know his weight flies in the face of the Marvel Universe books, but Ben's got lots of armor and his human form weighs 200 lbs. at least.

Finally: Thanks, SuperFriend for the Transformation approach!

EDIT: Cleaned up the math. Don't know how I screwed that up! Thanks, SF.

So Thing wuz only liftin' 16 tons during Byrne's run? Did he get weaker?

PS: I remember around FF #250, with Gladiator and Spider-Man, that Ben picks up a bus. 16 tons could cover that. I can't recall any comic stories showing him lifting much more than that. Just that pesky Marvel Universe book!

As an aside, Marvel was kinda vague about strength -- just like DC -- for many o' its heavy-hitters for a long while. One of my Byrne-Claremont issues of the X-Men has Colossus liftin' a weight that says 30 tons, but much of da time we really can't measure exactly what their limits are. I don't know dat the writers always knew.

I have to feel bad fer the Thing, though, bein' so weak!I mean, Alicia Masters has got to be able to lift at least 2 er 3 tons on a bad day!

Don't forget about Alicia's 45 points of invulnerability. I mean, she's dating a rock guy!

BTW: It'd be fun to see Johnny's girlfriend Frankie before she went Galactic!

Doctor Foom wrote on Jul 28^th, 2009 at 2:41pm:


At one point, did Byrne have Reed come up w/the idea that Ben actually could transform back--he just subconsciously didn't want to for really disturbing psychological reasons. It was a very retcon approach to the character--if I'm rememberin' it correctly.

The best Thing I like about John Byrne post X-Men wuz dat he make Lockjaw speak (that was fantastic!) and he got rid of Scarlet Witch's dopey kids. Poof!

I can't wait to see Sue Storm! Ben's Marvel Two-in-One appearances more than make up for his leaves of absense from the FF in terms of experience. But Sue spent a long haul gettin' replaced by a couple o'Inhuman cousins (Medusa and Crystal). That's just got to put her at a lower level.

And I can't wait to see how her judo skills translate. She used them a lot back in her bare bones days before Stan Lee sold the grrl out w/force fields that made about as much sense as Johnny Storm's full-color flame illusions.

Seriously? She trained under Iron Fist? I did not know that. This is off topic, but I never felt any chemistry between Sue and Reed. She may hav been attracted to his sturdy-Kirby jawline, his firm set of values, and his intellectual aspirations--but I don't think Sue really gets Reed on a fundamental level. And the guy's really not that hard to read. Reed might have been initially attracted to her congeniality and catalog-model prettiness, and maybe he was looking for a woman who would be supportive but who really woldn't get in the way. But they don't have a deeper soulful connection; why else would she be half-attracted to the passionately volative Sub-Mariner? Subby would not make a good mate, but he represents the emotional three-dimensionality that she lacks with Reed. And I don't think Reed truly gets Sue either; not because she's less intelligent, but in a way because she hold herself back around him. The irony is that Reed is a very deep person--intellectually and ethically. But because Sue and Reed really don't understand one another--their personalities don't overlap enough--neither of them really seem to experience a rich relationship together.

Yellowjacket and Wasp had disfunctional passion; Vision and Scarlet Wtich had the pretense of passion; but Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Woman have sublimated passion. They both want it to be there, but aren't a close enough match to really experience it together.

Maybe she would have been happier with Danny. At his best, he had the social nicieties that would make Sue feel at home, and the moral/emotional depth that she sees in Reed/Namor. Then she might have finally felt like herself rather than like someone going through the motions of being in a happy relationship.

THE ONI wrote on Aug 1^st, 2009 at 12:27pm:


I have thought about it. (We all have.) But all that really says is that he'd probably try meetin' his husbandly duties while he's at work in the other room (kinda like John from the Watchmen). Not very romantic. I really feel bad for Sue now!

It don't take stretchin' powers to satisfay someone. Without gettin' X-rated, I'm sure Matt Murdock does just fine.

All in all, I think Cyclops and Jean Grey had good chemistry together circa 1970s.

I also think that Dasszler and Warren Worthington would have worked as a couple if they'd stayed together. (Her fling w/Beast was more about her coming to terms w/her mutant origin and him moving into a leadership role w/in the mutant community).

THE ONI wrote on Aug 1^st, 2009 at 8:37pm:

In another life I was a marriage counselor to super-types. A recurring them among Marvel women is that they fall for emotionally unavailable men ... or they talk themselves into see potential in men who really don't have that potential.

Wasp married Hank Pym only after he lost his mind and became volatile Yellowjacket. That excited her. Then he settled down and became the same studiously self-conscious man she'd known all along. Friction that contributed to their ongoing strife.

After her estranged childhood, and the overpowering influence of evil Magneto, Scarlet Witch longed for a conventional homelife ... and settled for a man who half the time claimed he didn't even have emotions. She was so terrified by strong/unstable emotional crisis that she settled for Vision's coldness.

Havok and Polaris made a good match back in the day. Too good a match for comics, which is why Marvel had to make Polaris go bad. That's what Marvel always does w/its intelligent and strong women: makes them go crazy or lose their powers. Blah, blah, blah. It's sad, really.

And don't me get started on Hellcat. I mean, how exactly was marrying the self-described Son of Satan a good idea? ????

Over at DC, Ollie and Black Canary may have a chance at a happy marriage. Marvel Comics was founded under the sexist shadow of Stan and Jack (no offense intended). DC's women have always been about a decade ahead of Marvel when it comes to equal rights.

Doctor Foom wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2009 at 4:05pm:


I think it was during the nearly unreadlbe Clairmont run.

dsumner wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2009 at 8:59pm:


Then I guess Clairmont revisited the idea, cause it was during that story with the Dreaming Celestial and the alternate FF from a possible future.  Which is a topic Clairmont has been recycling for decades.

Kool. (And I wazn't even expectin' the judo to be listed; I always thought everyone forgot about that.)

Back to the write-up: So how much damage do her Force Field attacks actually do? In 2nd ed. rules they match carryin' capacity based HTH damage. So if yer using Charisma for Strength does that mean her Force Field damage matches what carrying capacity would be w/ 21 Strength:

(2.1 x 2.1 x 2.1 + 1.8) times half her weight = 719 lbs. (1-8 damage).

Also, I had forgotten the judo! Thanks for the heads up!

I'm not a big fan of the Byrne FF, but I'd almost think Sue trained to get Speed Bonus while ridin' Force Fields.

Another thought I had is treatin' her Force Fields as standard, but sayin' Sue has Heightened Attack. That would cover her judo back in the bare bones days and es-plain how tough her Force Bolts are.

Sue's HTH damage is 1d4 based on her stats. If you add +18 damage to that, it would be VERY impressive. And it would make her damage in about the same range as the Thing, which is how it often seemed in da comics t/me.

Just my take on the woman.

Going to go with it. Modifications are laid in above. Thanks SF for the feedback!

I forget, did Byrne kill Herbie or did he die off pre-Byrne?

Could be. But Force Field already has a 16 base to hit. At 18th level, there ain't a lot that she's gonna miss!

SuperFriend wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2009 at 10:28pm:


I tend to agree. But it's funny, we have to give Heightened Expertise to HTH-ers but not energy blasters, all because of the combat chart.

In terms of level, the FF's GM HAS to give partial experience awards. Dr. Doom, Galactus, Annihilus, the Surfer, Mole Man, et.al. don't spend much time locked up by the proper authorities. 

Cool. I see no prob w/18 endurance. Not cuz of his level per se, but because he seemed pretty sturdy after the 1970s.

BTW: Wuz Johnny ever able to use Flame Power A? I remember seein' picutres of him creatin' flames in his hands and such w/out flamin' on.

But to confess, I didn't follow da FF much around this point.

Who's next? Wyatt Wingfoot?

Crystal?

Agatha Harkness?

Madam Medusa?

Willie Lumpkin?

Or my main man o'steel, Luke Cage!

Flame Flight thoughts.

How'd ya feel about givin' ol' man Johnny Storm speed bonus instead of flight. Here's why: based on the stats above, he can already fly 51 mph. With speed bonus you could add 100" per turn, puttin him to about 70 mph.

The advantage is that if he had regular flight then he could just fly without flames. But Johnny don't do that. He alwys has to be on fire to fly (unless John Byrne did sumthin' else to the character that I ain't seen; again, I didn't follow him that closely).

With his regular flame powers. does Johnny still do 1-12 (+2 damage mod) or is he tougher at this point?

I love the nova blast write up.


Now, I want to see Willie Lumpkin.  How much damage can he do by wiggling his ears!

And I want to see Dr Doom or the Impossible Man!